tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post111068506640616780..comments2024-03-20T03:12:56.498-05:00Comments on Lou Anders: The Power of Cool: Arthur Fonzarelli as Archetypal ShamanLou Andershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362734492222851noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post-48463956193571444962010-07-23T23:47:10.885-05:002010-07-23T23:47:10.885-05:00I'm going to have to find that commentary. Sou...I'm going to have to find that commentary. Sounds interesting, and I think Ebert has a good point there. I was wondering if the messianic thing was the same as the shaman or something else and i love <a href="http://thekidscostumes.com/Elvis-Presly-Kids-Costumes/" rel="nofollow">Elvis</a>. a lotkids costumeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09878479162147820344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post-8946429828124109732010-07-23T23:43:39.042-05:002010-07-23T23:43:39.042-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.kids costumeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09878479162147820344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post-1112106453831715932005-03-29T08:27:00.000-06:002005-03-29T08:27:00.000-06:00Fascinating. I did not know about that one, I admi...Fascinating. I did not know about that one, I admit.Lou Andershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362734492222851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post-1112037080161807612005-03-28T13:11:00.000-06:002005-03-28T13:11:00.000-06:00Actually, there was yet ANOTHER Happy Days spinoff...Actually, there was yet ANOTHER Happy Days spinoff, <I>Out of the Blue</I>, the 1979 sitcom about Chachi's guardian angel, Random. I kid you not. For more info, see http://www.poobala.com/happydaysandout.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post-1110910630643447032005-03-15T12:17:00.000-06:002005-03-15T12:17:00.000-06:00Jeremy,Let me know what you think when you read it...Jeremy,<BR/>Let me know what you think when you read it!Lou Andershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362734492222851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post-1110821222972123032005-03-14T11:27:00.000-06:002005-03-14T11:27:00.000-06:00That sounds utterly fascinating. Thanks for the IS...That sounds utterly fascinating. Thanks for the ISBN. Looks like an expensive title, so I'll see if I can score it via interlibrary loan.Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07793651066847507404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post-1110817753471279112005-03-14T10:29:00.000-06:002005-03-14T10:29:00.000-06:00Jeremy,there is a great book called The Death and ...Jeremy,<BR/>there is a great book called <I>The Death and Resurrection Show</I> by Rogan Taylor (Anthony Blond, 1985 ISBN: 0856341517) about the connection between shamanism, stage magic, and the entertainer. (Did you know that in the original rabbit-outta-the-hat trick the rabbit was dismembered and chopped up before being retrieved whole?). It's a fascinating read that suggests some of the long-standing reasons for the Church's opposition to, among other things, rock'n'roll, and talks about how both Harry Houdini and John Lennon were very disturbed by the amount of people who were brought to their performances to be healed!Lou Andershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362734492222851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post-1110775997652530392005-03-13T22:53:00.000-06:002005-03-13T22:53:00.000-06:00Oh. It just occured to me that Gene Wolfe's new bo...Oh. It just occured to me that Gene Wolfe's new books fits this so blatantly, I finally understand exactly where he's coming from. The realms, etc. <BR/><BR/>I'm going to have to find that commentary. Sounds interesting, and I think Ebert has a good point there. I was wondering if the messianic thing was the same as the shaman or something else.Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07793651066847507404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post-1110775643556303462005-03-13T22:47:00.000-06:002005-03-13T22:47:00.000-06:00A.R.,In reference to the Fonz, Mork fits in as the...A.R.,<BR/>In reference to the Fonz, Mork fits in as the air spirit that must be tamed. In his own series (the final seasons of which I did not view), I suspect he is the hero of his own journey. As to how the archetype changes when applied to a female protagonist, I'd like to hear some opinions.<BR/><BR/>Jeremy, <BR/><I>Dark City</I> is indeed underrated. Have you listened to the brilliant commentary by Rogert Ebert, where he tries to define a subset of science fiction in which the protagonist wakes up to the illusory nature of the world and then acts as messiah to the rest of society. Recorded about a year or two before the first <I>Matrix</I> and really insightful in light of that fact.<BR/><BR/>Actually, a film that wears its archetype on its sleeve is the lamentable WB Looney Toons film <I>Space Jam</I>. In the film, the land of the Toons is not a suburb of Hollywood a la Rodger Rabbit but is located at the center of the earth. There is no discernable reason for this other than that it clearly represents the "lower realm". When this realm is threatened by space aliens, i.e. beings from the "higher realm", they kidnap Michael Jordan. He is pulled through the concentric rings of Porky Pig's WB logo, literally the rings of the Inferno, where he marshalls the lower spirits by teaching them basket ball. His fellow NBA players have their powers taken from them by the Higher Spirits/Space Aliens, but when Jordan bests the aliens, he returns from his journey to the higher and lower realms with a magic basketball that returns their talents to them, literally becoming the shaman who travels to the otherside and returns to heal his tribe.Lou Andershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362734492222851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post-1110769210543673572005-03-13T21:00:00.000-06:002005-03-13T21:00:00.000-06:00Great fun! I've been trying to think of SF film/s...Great fun! I've been trying to think of SF film/show examples where a character might fit the same archtype, and the first one that popped into my head is the underrated film, <I>Dark City</I>.Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07793651066847507404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11303103.post-1110729095093519902005-03-13T09:51:00.000-06:002005-03-13T09:51:00.000-06:00Cool! Watching "Happy Days" when I grew up, I felt...Cool! Watching "Happy Days" when I grew up, I felt there was something special about the Fonz, but now I see the whole pattern.<BR/><BR/>You mention Mork... who later got his own TV series, which I liked even better. Where does he fit into Campbell's mythic model?<BR/><BR/>And another question: if the shaman character is female, does the pattern of the myth change? (I assume it does?)<BR/><BR/>-A.R.Yngve<BR/><A HREF="http://aryngve.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">http://aryngve.blogspot.com</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com